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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.14 02:45:00 -
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I decided i wanted to build a new kit. After attaching everything to the motherboard i went to turn it on. The led lights in the case blinked on for a half second and wnet dark. Nothing else happened. I'm fearing the worse right now and i feel as tho i may have broken something vital like the motherboard or the CPU. Another possibility would be that the power supply is inadequate. I did do a wattage check and i fall about 250 below my minimum with my kit. So i decided to unplug the components i did not immediately need to save wattage and perhaps be able tot turn the pc on and install the MOBO drivers. It did the exact same thing as the first time, then nothing. The heat sink did not even spin.
When I look at the motherboard led light it is a solid green light signifying that it is in standby mode, however that's as far as I am getting no matter what i do to compensate.
I've been pretty paranoid about the building process from the start, I've even put patches on the back of the new case to make sure that the motherboard did not touch any of the case metal.
Here is my kit:
ASUS M3A78-em AM2+ 780g micro board (ATX)
AMD phenom X4 9850 black edition processor
NVIDIA 8800 GTS 512 MB graphics card (uses PCI-E slot)
Standard DVD/CD rom
Standard CD rom
2 DDR2 ram
Western Digital 80 GB HDD
Western Digital 650 GB HDD
Small TV Tuner in pci regular slot.
Power: 500 watt. (750 minimum is needed but still wont power up the PC when components have been removed. All of the plugs seem to fit into the motherboard and it carries all the connections the motherboard requires.)
This power unit is currently in use in an older computer and is powering it up fine.
Case: Thermaltake VA8000BWS. Has 4 fans. 1 front intake, 2 rear exhaust and one top exhaust. Front and back fans have led lights.
If anyone has any idea or suggestion towards what could have possibly gone wrong please let me know. I'm quite eager to return to EVE now that finals are over, but I definitely need to fix this problem first. My hope is that the power supply is insufficient in more than one way, but lots of signs are pointing to a problem with the mobo. It sucks because I just opened it. Again, there was a steady green standby light on the mobo when I switched the power box on which gets the initial juices flowing, but when I hit the pc power button nothing happens.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.14 03:38:00 -
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This motherboard came with the ability to support AMD2+. Not to mention it came as a bundle package with the processor. My issue is that the whole computer will not power on.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.14 03:40:00 -
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I want to make contacting the manufacturer my last resort =( I have had bad experiences.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.16 15:13:00 -
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If you guys read my posts more carefully you would understand that i unplugged the components that would jump my min req to 750. the mobo alone would be about 350 along with a hard drive.
the components i unplugged: the graphics card, one hard drive, the CD and dvd drives, tv tuner, and 2 of my fans.
I ordered a 1000 watt power supply to replace the 500. Someone said that the 500 one despite having enough wattage to power just the motherboard may not have the amp or jump to get the thing going.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.17 05:36:00 -
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I wish it were true puck, but the 750 watt measurement was from the ASUS website after i matched the calculator exactly to my setup.
I tried running with just the motherboard to see if it would work. No go, all i get is the green standby light on the motherboard. So unless i want to sit around in doom and gloom thinking i broke the processor or MB, the only other think i can think of besides something not plugged in right is that the power supply is insufficient for not only powering everything, but even starting. I am still waiting for my shipment in the mail. Regardless, ill have a power supply that i wont have to replace for a long time.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.17 17:26:00 -
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yes i have. I dont think my mobo came with orange circle patches, but i installed my own makeshift patch tape to make sure the motherboard isnt even touching the back.
I believe the int speaker was plugged in already, but no way to test if theres no startup
The only thing i have not tried is the one stick of ram idea, but i have already rebuilt this tower and i dont feel like taking it apart again untill i get the new PSU in the mail.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.17 18:46:00 -
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1: the ram isnt broken, they are currently in the PC im posting in this forum with o.o.
2: I hope that is the case Verone. It's what im counting on till friday when the 1k watt powersupply comes in. It would also answer the question on why the 500 watt supply could not power the motherboard without many of the other components.
3: Too late, the failed PSU is also currently in use with this PC which it accomapnied to begin with. No problems.
4: I dont think I can expect a beep from this particular board if the thing doesn't even power on.
While the PSU isnt necessarily dead, the only two things i can think of are number 2 and the dreaded suggestion made by phantom slave that something is wrong with the mobo/processor.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.18 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Izen Cracker on 18/12/2008 16:49:23
Power supply came a day earlier! =D wish me luck, going into PC surgery now.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.18 19:03:00 -
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Why are we talking about BIOs? The computer hasn't even powered on yet. Can't even think about getting to the BIOs screen if there is no power.
For the record though, this motherboard and processor came as a bundle package from newegg and included the official driver CD. If anything, i'd be sure that the BIOs would be supported... unless newegg scams people, which they would have serious problems comming from me if they did. And so far, newegg has not scammed me.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 00:52:00 -
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*several hours later*
Got good news:
The PSU came in mail and pc turned on and stuff. Here's probably where I messed up:
"makeshift patches to try and prevent the mobo from touching the back case."
When I reopened the PC I wanted to be sure everything was gonna turn on this time so I did a further mobo inspection. I learned that the tape was not doing what I wanted it to and the mobo was see-sawiing on an erected part of the case back. Fail. So when I finally looked in a conspicuous looking box that I overlooked in the case package, I found standoffs to mount the mobo on...
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but there's BAD NEWS!!!
First, after 15 minutes of dealing with chassis intrusion failure, I tried to load up windows so I could run the driver CD. I got blue screened so I decided to run safe mode.
Next, Windows booted up, but the USB mouse and keyboard were disabled for some reason after windows started! Fail. I had to get one of those older keyboards with the purple input.
Then, I managed to get inside the OS and try to boot up the disk, but then the disk claimed it could not load any of it's functions.
Last, I tried to boot safe mode with network support , but then windows tells me I have to activate windows before I can log in... fail.
So, i had to place the main HD and display card back in this old setup to try and research what went wrong.
does anyone know what went wrong? Could it be that I have to uninstall THESE mobo drivers first somehow?
Thx for your support so far. Once I learn how this process goes I can do it again in the future with no problem.
Then its back to EVE (hopefully)
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:26:00 -
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install windows? Hold on.... you're kidding right? I thought it was possible to swap the board without installing windows again.
Yes, I did plug my HDD in, but it was only to install the drivers for the mobo, I couldn't do them on this mobo, because hell knows what would happen if I did.
I'm trying to install the mobo drivers to the HDD. Somehow my friend managed to do it without reinstalling windows.
(the other problem is that the great dell did not supply me with a windows CD)
And bear in mind this is my first time building a pc, we all have to learn somehow, so take it easy on me here. The good news is that I didn't break anything, and IMO that's probably the most important outcome of this day yet.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Izen Cracker on 19/12/2008 01:30:02
Funny isn't it? They just didn't come to mind till I found the box they were stored in. I'd say if there was some way to put a twist on it, you could submit this to the fail blog.
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Izen Cracker
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Posted - 2008.12.19 01:35:00 -
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Might even be better just to take my other HDD and make a new partition... but I left the windows CD at the dorm...
We have windows disks here, but the version my serial key comes from is xp media center edition so it looks like i'm stuck.
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